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08-28-2012
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#621 (permalink)
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Kinda dead, pending resurrection. May post
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QUOTE:
Originally Posted by ★Ryūji★
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You attract more attention with a thread and it helps him to teach others and other users get insight from others (namely Kain)
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Originally Posted by ★Ryūji★
That's where Maranatha's useless ramblings should go. In his first post of his thread he states he only wants to help fellow christians out if they are curious and have questions, but that's something that could be done privately in pm, vm, or whatever.
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lol, you want to go by his first post (and there's no rule against exclusion)
"but rather a place for Christians to get answers from other Christians"
Boom, plural noun. Made it obvious because you missed it the first time.
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by ★Ryūji★
Not here in a section where discussion/debate is encouraged, which he also says he doesnt want to do in the first post. So I repeat - this thread should be closed.
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Half truth.
"The goal is not to be a debate forum"
It says nothing about discussion.
Define:discussion
2. A conversation or debate (it says or, so you can do that) about a certain topic.
Conversation:
Christian: Marantha, in my belief system to be saved you must repent, what does The Bible say?
Marantha: The Bible says you must believe and acknowledge him.
Discussion has been made.
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08-28-2012
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#622 (permalink)
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consistently inconsistent
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QUOTE:
Originally Posted by Isle
Is/was there any thread like this?
If not then the rules are the same.
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The rules aren't the same in this thread, but I wouldn't expect you to see that.
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Originally Posted by Isle
I'm not gonna dig up stuff from over a year ago just to discredit Nasir.
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Doesn't matter when it was. Nice that you know its true though.
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Originally Posted by Isle
Alright, go make a thread about politics, tapirs, balloons, there's a billion different things you can do to test this out.
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Pointless argument :/
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Originally Posted by Isle
Indeed, but none of that is Nasir in the past 6 months.
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Haha, he's got minions to do the dirty work these days.
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Originally Posted by Isle
Due to their age? Doubt it. Just stupidity.
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Wouldn't call them stupid :/ Just too young for a section with adult threads.
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Originally Posted by Isle
Though yes I agree, an unbiased mod that is of considerable age should manage this section.
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Stop the presses!! Lee and Isle in agreement shocker.
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Originally Posted by Isle
Except for Bible fact or fiction, same sex marriage, and more?
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Those threads encourage discussion, so there's no problems. But you can bet as soon as there's an opportunity to lock them it will be taken. Just like the 'does god exist' thread.
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Originally Posted by Isle
Yes, but Serious things that need a serious tone (regardless if anyone actually takes them seriously) have no other place to go but here.
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Blogs, pm's, vm's..take your pick.
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08-28-2012
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#623 (permalink)
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VGM Collector
Nasir is the most biased admin ever
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QUOTE:
Originally Posted by Isle
You attract more attention with a thread and it helps him to teach others and other users get insight from others (namely Kain)
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Not sure I agree about attracting more attention, if Maranatha wrote all his ♥♥♥♥ in a blog it would show up on the home page, as that is one of the new features included in these changes that Brent made. As for teaching others, I still say that could be done privately.
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Originally Posted by Isle
lol, you want to go by his first post (and there's no rule against exclusion)
"but rather a place for Christians to get answers from other Christians"
Boom, plural noun. Made it obvious because you missed it the first time.
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I didnt miss that part, I acknowledged that, that is why I said he wants to help his fellow christians. But it's not really helping anyone save for a couple. What usually happens is this:
*Maranatha rambles on about the bible*
response from everyone else:
*crickets chirping, tumbleweed blows across the ground*
^That is why this thread is also one of the reasons why this thread is pointless.
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by Isle
Half truth.
"The goal is not to be a debate forum"
It says nothing about discussion.
Define:discussion
2. A conversation or debate (it says or, so you can do that) about a certain topic.
Conversation:
Christian: Marantha, in my belief system to be saved you must repent, what does The Bible say?
Marantha: The Bible says you must believe and acknowledge him.
Discussion has been made.
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Yes, he only wants to "discuss" with other christians, which in a way does imply to exclude non-christians. There is nothing wrong with wanting to help fellow christians out, it's just that more often than not nobody cares what he says. If his teachings arent cared about, then he is wasting his time. That's another reason why this thread is pointless.
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08-28-2012
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#624 (permalink)
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Kinda dead, pending resurrection. May post
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QUOTE:
Originally Posted by ★Ryūji★
Not sure I agree about attracting more attention, if Maranatha wrote all his ♥♥♥♥ in a blog it would show up on the home page, as that is one of the new features included in these changes that Brent made. As for teaching others, I still say that could be done privately.
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What good is doing it privately? Sure he can, just like I can debate Lee about the Bible in PM's, but what good does that do?
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by ★Ryūji★
I didnt miss that part, I acknowledged that, that is why I said he wants to help his fellow christians.
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lol, you missed it again.
"but rather a place for Christians"
ok.
"to get answers from other Christians"
Look, other Christians is plural, so clearly it's not just him who can answer according to the first post, it's other Christians.
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by ★Ryūji★
But it's not really helping anyone save for a couple. What usually happens is this:
*Maranatha rambles on about the bible*
response from everyone else:
*crickets chirping, tumbleweed blows across the ground*
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Then following same logic in The Bible Fact or Fiction:
*some kid comments about The Bible*
*Isle comments*
*kid never responds and never comes back to SDD*
*tumbleweeds*
*repeats
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Originally Posted by ★Ryūji★
^That is why this thread is also one of the reasons why this thread is pointless.
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It's not though. It's a great place for him to teach people.
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by ★Ryūji★
Yes, he only wants to "discuss" with other christians, which in a way does imply to exclude non-christians.
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There's no rule against that.
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by ★Ryūji★
There is nothing wrong with wanting to help fellow christians out, it's just that more often than not nobody cares what he says. If his teachings arent cared about, then he is wasting his time. That's another reason why this thread is pointless.
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Looks at last page
*sees comment asking question by Zeno*
*sees entire freaking debate*
*sees comment by Isle thanking Maranatha*
Not cared about? You're losing me bud.
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08-28-2012
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#625 (permalink)
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The Wolf King
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Wow. This thread has went downhill imo :(. I truly enjoyed the discussions that Marantha had about the Bible and his interpretation of the same pieces of scripture. I even posted a little bit. It is nothing wrong with this thread imo and it isn't trying to change anyones beliefs it is just trying to teach the Bible that is all. wither you receive it is on you.
As far as someone over 18 managing this thing well Age doesn't equal maturity. As long as the mod is respectful to a persons believes and provides wisdom on the topic at hand that would be ok. I would managed this section... nah just kidding haha. Nasir is doing his job.
Last edited by AzurikDaWolf; 08-28-2012 at 06:29 PM.
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08-29-2012
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#627 (permalink)
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consistently inconsistent
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QUOTE:
Originally Posted by KainAzule
I truly enjoyed the discussions that Marantha had about the Bible and his interpretation of the same pieces of scripture. I even posted a little bit.
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Greetings Kain :)
Thats the point though..its just you two who take the thread seriously, and there's nothing that can't be said via pm's etc. This thread doesn't belong in this section. Its favouritism and empathy which keep it here.
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by KainAzule
As far as someone over 18 managing this thing well Age doesn't equal maturity. As long as the mod is respectful to a persons believes and provides wisdom on the topic at hand that would be ok.
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A good point well put.
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08-29-2012
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#628 (permalink)
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The Wolf King
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QUOTE:
Originally Posted by Lee ENG
Greetings Kain :)
Thats the point though..its just you two who take the thread seriously, and there's nothing that can't be said via pm's etc. This thread doesn't belong in this section. Its favouritism and empathy which keep it here.
A good point well put.
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Either way it doesn't matter to me because I am not the moderator of this forum I just stated I enjoy the discussion that we have when it comes to talking about the Bible and different interpretations of it.
Oh Greetings Lee :)
I hope you are doing well sir I can say this about you sir. You and I maybe on the opposite sides of the spectrum about this topic but I respect you and your viewpoint because you carry yourself in a respectful matter. Just so you know I appreciate that. There are a few others as well.
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08-29-2012
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#629 (permalink)
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consistently inconsistent
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QUOTE:
Originally Posted by KainAzule
Either way it doesn't matter to me because I am not the moderator of this forum I just stated I enjoy the discussion that we have when it comes to talking about the Bible and different interpretations of it.
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Fair point.
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by KainAzule
Oh Greetings Lee :)
I hope you are doing well sir I can say this about you sir. You and I maybe on the opposite sides of the spectrum about this topic but I respect you and your viewpoint because you carry yourself in a respectful matter. Just so you know I appreciate that. There are a few others as well.
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Your comment is appreciated. The feeling is mutual Kain :)
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08-30-2012
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#630 (permalink)
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VGM Collector
Nasir is the most biased admin ever
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QUOTE:
Originally Posted by Isle
What good is doing it privately? Sure he can, just like I can debate Lee about the Bible in PM's, but what good does that do?
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It's better to do it privately because it's more specific to one person who may want help/learn from Maranatha's viewpoint, as opposed to here where no ones gives a ♥♥♥♥ about his posts in this thread.
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by Isle
lol, you missed it again.
"but rather a place for Christians"
ok.
"to get answers from other Christians"
Look, other Christians is plural, so clearly it's not just him who can answer according to the first post, it's other Christians.
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My point is that nobody ever answers his posts, christian or otherwise. He may have helped you and Kain, but I'll get to that below.
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by Isle
Then following same logic in The Bible Fact or Fiction:
*some kid comments about The Bible*
*Isle comments*
*kid never responds and never comes back to SDD*
*tumbleweeds*
*repeats
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The difference between that thread and this one is that this one implies exclusion to non-christians. Whereas in The Bible: fact or fiction thread anyone can answer.
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by Isle
It's not though. It's a great place for him to teach people.
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teaching who? Like I said nobody ever comments on what he posts besides you and Kain.
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by Isle
There's no rule against that.
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Like I mentioned earlier it's implied exclusion.
QUOTE:
Originally Posted by Isle
Looks at last page
*sees comment asking question by Zeno*
*sees entire freaking debate*
*sees comment by Isle thanking Maranatha*
Not cared about? You're losing me bud.
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Who else has it helped? This is why I say it should be done privately because it's not really helping anyone other than you and Kain. Maybe if people actually cared what he writes and comments then this thread would have a purpose. But as it stands, it doesnt.
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