War. Is it right?

Loftyz · 06-27-2012

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Originally Posted by race4fun

I support war IF say the country I am in (U.S.) is attacked like WWII when pearl harbor was attacked

Japan wanted to modernise and expand further into the Asia-Pacific region by colonising Korea and parts of China, before moving south to gain "spheres of influence" in Australia. Japan's decision to bomb Pearl Harbour was made because America had set up a naval base within the Asia-Pacific region and Japan feared that America and it's navy would interfere with the rapid expansion that Japan was planning.

On the contrary, the surfacing of recent American documents revealed that America had no intentions to stop Japan from colonising in the Asia-Pacific. Ultimately, Japan had no valid reason to bomb Pearl Harbour and America had no reason to fight against Japan, as the bombings were made with the intent of "intimidation". The whole pacific war would never have occurred if these countries talked it out from the beginning.

Some wars are pointless, and only led to loss of life and economy; it's easy to see that. But when there are people such as Hitler or extremist religious groups, these people don't understand what constitutes a civil society and they have far too much influence, leading to violence. These people need to be persuaded or removed (killed) to preserve the future morality and prosperity of Earth.

*<><*Blaze · 06-28-2012

[QUOTE=sly;4787342]"Banks are more powerful than standing armies" -Thomas Jefferson

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War is an 'animal' trait we humans sadly possess. When someone infringes on your beliefs, property, etc. We attack because we're quite territorial. We can curb it with "centralized" Governments, like the United Nations.

Everyone shouldn't have a huge obsession of other peoples religion. It's mostly opinion, but why do we care about other peoples beliefs? It's their life not ours.

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However, to truely end war, you have to remove religion and religious-inflicted ideologies (root cause of 80% wars in history) from humanity. Which, for obvious reasons, will never happen.

You have that right. Never going to happen.

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We can remove the territorial wars. But as we saw in World War II, nobody is really stoked about losing their power to a foreign entity. The lives and monetary costs are steep. "A war to end all wars" is this method.

There's never a war to end war. It will probably cause more and more wars, and at some point everyone's dead

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Diplomacy seems to be the method of ending wars, but sadly, some people who end up in power (mostly the non-elected leaders of the world) like to be filled with other human emotions - like deceit. They'll say one thing in a summit then do the opposite because they can.

That's how most wars are started. Like Bin Laden wasn't a leader of Africa, and he caused 9/11

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Originally Posted by Loftyz

Japan wanted to modernise and expand further into the Asia-Pacific region by colonising Korea and parts of China, before moving south to gain "spheres of influence" in Australia. Japan's decision to bomb Pearl Harbour was made because America had set up a naval base within the Asia-Pacific region and Japan feared that America and it's navy would interfere with the rapid expansion that Japan was planning.

Why do they fear? If we did set an attack, they would fight back, anyways. They should have been sure before they attacked Pearl Harbour

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Some wars are pointless, and only led to loss of life and economy; it's easy to see that. But when there are people such as Hitler or extremist religious groups, these people don't understand what constitutes a civil society and they have far too much influence, leading to violence. These people need to be persuaded or removed (killed) to preserve the future morality and prosperity of Earth.

There should only be wars if they're badly needed, like 9/11 for comeback. But we destroyed a lot of the country, and used a bunch of money, so we need to be more careful. You can't just go there with a rifle and shoot everyone till everyone's dead.

*<><*Blaze · 06-28-2012

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Originally Posted by sly

"Banks are more powerful than standing armies" -Thomas Jefferson

War is an 'animal' trait we humans sadly possess. When someone infringes on your beliefs, property, etc. We attack because we're quite territorial. We can curb it with "centralized" Governments, like the United Nations.

Everyone shouldn't have a huge obsession of other peoples religion. It's mostly opinion, but why do we care about other peoples beliefs? It's their life not ours.

QUOTE:

However, to truely end war, you have to remove religion and religious-inflicted ideologies (root cause of 80% wars in history) from humanity. Which, for obvious reasons, will never happen.

You have that right. Never going to happen.

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We can remove the territorial wars. But as we saw in World War II, nobody is really stoked about losing their power to a foreign entity. The lives and monetary costs are steep. "A war to end all wars" is this method.

There's never a war to end war. It will probably cause more and more wars, and at some point everyone's dead

QUOTE:

Diplomacy seems to be the method of ending wars, but sadly, some people who end up in power (mostly the non-elected leaders of the world) like to be filled with other human emotions - like deceit. They'll say one thing in a summit then do the opposite because they can.

That's how most wars are started. Like Bin Laden wasn't a leader of Africa, and he caused 9/11

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Originally Posted by Loftyz

Japan wanted to modernise and expand further into the Asia-Pacific region by colonising Korea and parts of China, before moving south to gain "spheres of influence" in Australia. Japan's decision to bomb Pearl Harbour was made because America had set up a naval base within the Asia-Pacific region and Japan feared that America and it's navy would interfere with the rapid expansion that Japan was planning.

Why do they fear? If we did set an attack, they would fight back, anyways. They should have been sure before they attacked Pearl Harbor

QUOTE:

Some wars are pointless, and only led to loss of life and economy; it's easy to see that. But when there are people such as Hitler or extremist religious groups, these people don't understand what constitutes a civil society and they have far too much influence, leading to violence. These people need to be persuaded or removed (killed) to preserve the future morality and prosperity of Earth.

There should only be wars if they're badly needed, like 9/11 for comeback. But we destroyed a lot of the country, and used a bunch of money, so we need to be more careful. You can't just go there with a rifle and shoot everyone till everyone's dead.

Bαjα · 07-21-2012

Is war right? I can't say that it is. However, with an attack like the 9/11 attacks I do not believe that diplomacy will fix that. They did what they did, so what's going to stop them from doing it again? In some ways, war is just a form of stopping another war from happening. In other cases, war is a way to conquer and become the top of the world. I do not support either form, but if my life depended on it, I would say war to prevent further wars is the better of the two. I still do not think it is right. And the Great War certainly did not keep future wars from happening.

SW1FtNinja · 08-19-2012

War is never right. Their mostly used to cover up scandals, remove tension from other pressing matters, cause destruction to both sides, are economically draining and are wasting peoples' lives and time.

Mightyena · 08-20-2012

War is almost always entirely uncalled for. Being a pacifist, I think that any problem can be solved just by talking it out, but a lot of people are too stubborn to compromise, which is a vital part of that. I don't think war will stop because of this, no matter how wrong it is.

Simon · 08-20-2012

War is never right. It kills so many people who could have had a wonderful life, left alone with broken dreams and tears.