in this case its not a good thing if your popular because of racing that is different >_>

well i gotta agree somewhat. Most think it is easy to run a clan but its not these new members have no idea how much it takes to run a good clan and thats why they die so quickly. However if a new member really has a good sound plan and wants to make a clan he has the right to do so. After my shadow virus clan disbanded I started Legacy because for me I want to build a clan that can be strong on this site. If Legacy is succesful I can say that i had a great hand in making legacy a good clan and its hard to join a clan thats already great because for me I find no gratification in that. If I joined a clan like IS who is 128-21 i would feel so unimportant because they were already a good clan and i contributed nothing. But to build a good clan for start that is gratification in my opinion maybe thats why so many new members start their own clans. Just my opinion

The point is, at least get some experience in a clan to learn how the average clan operates, or just join a clan geared towards newer players and get better together.

When you've never been in a clan, and you try to make one, you're pretty much begging for failure.

well taxy i agree Shadow Virus was my first clan I had never been in a clan before and the clan was started in about 20 minutes, as i think back on it, it failed and it was destined to fail. But I wont make those mistakes again. So i definately agree wit you as far as getting experience first.

I completely and utterly agree with this topic - it should be stickied.

Not entirely true. I admit I am just as annoyed as the next guy with the crap ton of clans that die off every week. It just spams up the clan zone, and makes things harder to find.

Still, some people aren't meant to be in clans Tax; they are meant to lead, and found them. Out of the many clans on this site, I can really count only a few great leaders to be honest so if it means a 100 new clans failing for one great leader to emerge out of the mass, then so be it.

It is everyone's right to try, and fail. Let it stand at that.

If it gets enough love / approval of people who use this part of the forum reguarly then i'll whack a sticky on it.

I totally agree with this whole thread.

Bump, because I agree.

This is correct. Now, all we need to do is to actually have peoplpe read this.