What are you talking about?
Evolution doesn't just happen in a matter of a few years. It's taken millions- no, BILLIONS of years to get were we are. It's gonna take a long time to evolve into our next form.
And life didn't just "poof, appear". It formed from from a combination of certain chemicals (mostly amino acids) and the right conditions (water, tempature, etc.). Scientist have actually created life this way. They put certain chemicals in a chamber and zap it with electicity. Within hours you will see large colonies of single cell organisms.

Then again, thats my belief. I respect yours.

^^^^ the reason I took biology last year. The entire chapter we did on evolution was absolutely fascinating, how organisms adapt to changes in their environment over millions of years, how whales have pelvises indicating they had legs at one point. We even learned about squirrels on opposite ends of the Grand Canyon I think that speciated to the point where they couldn't even breed anymore.

I do believe in evolution and find is very fascinating, so I definitely support the theory of organic life development on other planets. It's a vast universe, we're not the only life forms here.

Its wierd how organisms are actually not built to evolve, it just happens. And the fact that out of all of the millions of genetic mutations a species will have, only one of them will lead to future evolution facinates me.

Edit:Lets get back on topic

You can add 1 or 2 to infinite. It's a perfectly possible operation (or subtraction, in this case we're assuming the space is expanding every moment like scientists say).
Get what I mean?

An infinite space that expands still remains infinite, BUT, it expands.

While you may think this is contradicting the Big Bang theory, it's just a matter of perspective if you look into it.

The Big Bang theory said it all possibly started an an expansion of an initial region as small as a ridiculous small part of the size of a proton.

You can however say, in the embedding theory of inflation, this is just one 'region', no boundaries assumed, the surrounding space is still infinite space.
So inflation defends a small region of space that expands on infinite metrics, regarding how large and fast it is to expand, it'll always be finite in size.

It's not about complete infinity, ok I'll try to explain forgetting all the river thing, it was a bad example.

Take for instance the infinite number set. You can add to it an infinite amount of numbers, without problem. Also you can subtract from it an infinite amount of numbers, while it still maintains being infinite.

Besides, assuming infinite is 'without boundaries' is a wrong view in my perspective.
A finite circular cause-and-effect chain has nor start or end, but this means that everything happened already an infinite number of times.

If there's something I skipped in your post tell me I guess this was it?

I just said it's a theory didn't say I agreed with it. In fact I believe there's currently no right scheme, the only I agree the most right now is the 3D sphere curved onto itself as a 4D hypersphere, although the problem that time must have a beginning still is there.

And yea, all rightness about the Pythagorean theorem, it's one of those things that only work under certain conditions. Unfortunately we haven't found a universal law like good ol' Einstein slaved himself to but couldn't =P.

It's a nice video, but it doesn't mention that this picture covers only one-thirteen millionth(!) of the entire night sky.

This site might explain it a bit further, scroll down to theory #1 (although the rest is also worth reading):

» 5 Scientific Theories That Will Make Your Head Explode | Cracked.com

OK then let's look at this another way, say that everything is true (the big bang theory, the universe expanding etc.). Do any of you think it is a good idea to try and find the reason for everything. I mean what if the reason is just to much for us to handle and the reason that we can't find the reason is that our brains and super computer's etc. just can't handle the reasoning to why everything is the way it is!

wow just wow

Indeed! And those are 'just' the known stars and planets. There are billions other ones.

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Ok, now by reason do you mean like a purpose? Cos IMHO, purpose is really perception, like how people who believe in God or the bible believe that he/she/it/they created everything with a purpose, the Earth was made with a purpose, and we were put on the earth with a purpose. Because we are an intelligent species we sometimes perceive that we are special and that we must have some kind of purpose for being to give some kind of meaning to our lives.

But do we really need to have meaning to our lives? It's kind of cynical to ask that kind of question, but you have to think about it. If you're an atheist then you don't believe in god, and really without god there is no "purpose" to life anymore, it just is. If life wasn't created by a higher entity, then how could it have meaning? Life just happens on its own, it grows on its own it evolves on its own, humans just happened on their own, so then that must mean life is happening everywhere in the vastness of the universe.

In my opinion, the Universe has to end somewhere. I know they say it doesn't end. That it is ongoing. But how do they know? We have never made it that far before. Not even close. We all thought the earth was flat at one point. We were wrong. The possibilities of us being wrong about the size of the universe, would be pretty good in my mind.

I also believe that there is life out there of somesort. Whether it be simple 1 cell creatures, or giant complex creatures with 20 tentacles, its out there somewhere. To think of it from a scientific point of view. The chances of another planet being able to sustain life of somesort, would be pretty good. IF the universe is as big as they say, it is out there somewhere. We just havent tapped into that potential to find it.

Now if you look at this from a regilious standpoint. (I personally am not religious so it is hard for me to say) What if we weren't the first failed experiement? What if this has been tried before, and the other planet and life on that planet was forgotten about and forsaken? The chances in my opinion for that are pretty damn good.

To cut this kind of short, (I may add more later), the universe being that big leaves me bewildered. I dont hold many fears over the situation of the possibility of life on other planets or galaxies. And I definitely believe it is out there somewhere, of somesort, just waiting to be discovered. Will we see it in our lifetime? In my opinion, no we will not. But maybe our children's children will. We just have to believe, be curious, and use our imaginations.



And to touch up on evolution. We are still evolving today. It just takes a long time. A thing to look at. Back when we were "cavemen" our wisdom teeth were not required to come out. Why is this you may ask? Because our mouths were bigger, and able to hold those four extra teeth. Now thousands of years later, after our mouths shrinking a little bit, and not being able to contain our wisdom teeth... Some are not growing them. Some people have 3 wisdom teeth rather than 4... And others have only 2. This is a small sign of evolution. After a few more thousand years, we will eventually not have any wisdom teeth that require to be removed.


It was also explained to me by a priest once, that the reason the signs of evolution are there, is because it is possible God put those signs there for us to find. To stop us from finding the Garden of Eden that they say the angels are guarding. Sounds far fetched to me (the whole religion thing does to me actually), however, if it is possible that God does exist, and all those stories are true, I could see the possibility in this.

And another thing.... The bible does say that life as we know it, was created in 7 days (I think... i know man was created on day 6). But what they dont say is how long 7 days was. The possibility of a day being thousands of years, even longer, are pretty good in my opinion. Noah lived to be what, 900+ years old? You explain that to me. Because their concept of time during the writing was much different than ours. So did life just poof and show up? No of course not, that is silly. Maybe the 7 days it took to create earth was an evolving process, because of their concept of time.